we learned that hillary clinton launched a website we all hope that is a signal for the future. can you imagine a 2016 race with susana martinez pitted against hillary clinton. >> hillary, if. you're thinking of running we're for you. >> jennifer: we're for you all the way. >> i don't know if the republicans would nominate susana martinez for president. the party, the way they're talking, they're talking a good game, but look at where the votes are. these the same people chanting let him die. these are not going to be the same people-- >> jennifer: i have a feeling they're going to spend four years to prove you wrong on that. there is another great woman who has surfaced as a 2016 candidate, janet napolitano. i'm going to tell you what i think, but i'm interested in what you think people should know about janet. >> well, we do know her well, and she is tough as nails, smart as heck, can work across the aisle. we saw that when she was the governor of a red state working with a republican legislature. she is really savvy in working on the immigration issue. combined with all that